best Saber
FATE
46.8%
22
UBW
12.8%
6
HF
40.4%
19
47 votes
| your favorite Saber role? i prefer UBW Saber |
roly-linaDec 4, 2015 4:50 AM
| Dead Tiger Dojo Saber HF Saber. The Sparks Liner High scene really hit me hard. |
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| OP, you should put a spoiler warning in the title. On topic: HF. Cause she talks less :p Seriously though, HF Saber as a character feels a lot better than the rest because Fate Saber's romance wasn't something i was really on board for and that undoubtedly affected my perception of her character, and UBW Saber was passive or absent throughout the route and functions as a Nuke launcher by the end. HF Saber is dangerous, threatening, demands more presence and attention, her character becomes more interesting seeing what aspects of her personality were corrupted and what weren't and her way of showing affection is amplified multiple times in weight and depth now that she's on the enemy side. Let's also not forget the insanely badass design of herself and Excalibur Morgan. This is Nasu out-Urobuchi Gen Urobuchi. |
| HF because she it's barely in that route. |
PralandDec 3, 2015 4:37 PM
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| Fate Saber, probably because that's her route to begin with and her ending scene there is best In UBW she is almost a non factor even if she is a central character there and in HF while she is actually ok in the beginning, Alter only receives a shred of characterization in bad ends even though she is cool |
MightyM16Dec 3, 2015 6:43 PM
| The one with a penis |
| Fate/Zero Saber is actually the worst "muh chivalry, muh honor, muh fair duel" The only thing she has going for her is that she looks good in a tie |
MightyM16Dec 3, 2015 5:10 PM
flameindustry said: MightyM16 said: Fate/Zero Saber is actually the worst "muh chivaly, muh honor, muh fair duel" The only thing she has going for her is that she looks good in a tie ah!!! how could you!!! Zero Saber was the only good Saber this persona matches her more than the boring one in stay night, she was cool and pretty and more awesome in battles, in stay night she was boring The robot it's boring in general. Only difference between Zero and Fate it's that she it's like Zuko in the former. |
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flameindustry said: MightyM16 said: Fate/Zero Saber is actually the worst "muh chivaly, muh honor, muh fair duel" The only thing she has going for her is that she looks good in a tie ah!!! how could you!!! Zero Saber was the only good Saber this persona matches her more than the boring one in stay night, she was cool and pretty and more awesome in battles, in stay night she was boring Pls, Stay Night is the original one, if there is a version of her that doesn't matches her original persona is the F/Z one By the end of her life Saber didn't care shit about chivalry, fair duel and honor anymore, she was already broken, F/Z regressed her character for the sake of making her the series chew-toy and that is all there was to it As I said the only thing she has going for her is that she looks good in a tie...oh yeah and she gets to ride a motorcycle as well, I guess that counts for something 2/10 I'd say F/Z was awesome but Saber was the worst part of it |
AntiBullyRanger said: MightyM16 said: all of this is significantly better than what is presented in FSN"muh chivaly, muh honor, muh fair duel" stay mad fam Sure, I can't blame you if you have shit taste |
AntiBullyRanger said: MightyM16 said: Archer would be impressed by your projection skillSure, I can't blame you if you have shit taste I could say the same to you, m8 |
AntiBullyRanger said: MightyM16 said: Yeah, because you lack originality I could say the same to you, m8 just like FSN Saber lacks any redeeming features Ah and just like F/Z Saber lacks a proper character outside of chew toy shenanigans? |
Kurbis said: The one with a penis |
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AntiBullyRanger said: yeah, except what little character she has is still better than what's shown in FSN. > the series where she is an OOC chivalry bot > better than series where she actually develops :^) Ah I should have know this was just poor quality bait She just jobbed to superior characters like Iskander and Gil, which is also seen in FSN. fitting of her role as a chew toy there tbh I think you're misunderstanding something, I'm not a fan of Zero Saber, but you're honestly delusional if you think FSN's version is better Idgaf but if being logical = delusional now then I guess I am |
Jerkhov said: all the ver in the option list had a penis at some point thoughKurbis said: The one with a penis |
AntiBullyRanger said: MightyM16 said: so poor it made you reply 5 times> the series where she is an OOC chivalry bot > better than series where she actually develops :^) Ah I should have know this was just poor quality bait Yeah, shame on me this time |
astroprogs said: OP, you should put a spoiler warning in the title. On topic: HF. Cause she talks less :p Seriously though, HF Saber as a character feels a lot better than the rest because Fate Saber's romance wasn't something i was really on board for and that undoubtedly affected my perception of her character, and UBW Saber was passive or absent throughout the route and functions as a Nuke launcher by the end. HF Saber is dangerous, threatening, demands more presence and attention, her character becomes more interesting seeing what aspects of her personality were corrupted and what weren't and her way of showing affection is amplified multiple times in weight and depth now that she's on the enemy side. Not only that. While she was still with Shirou they acted like Partners, and that Lovers Shit from Fate or Best Mama from UBW. |
| Oh God, why. astroprogs said: Seriously though, HF Saber as a character feels a lot better than the rest because Fate Saber's romance wasn't something i was really on board for and that undoubtedly affected my perception of her character, and UBW Saber was passive or absent throughout the route and functions as a Nuke launcher by the end. >Implying Alter wasn't absent most of the route >Implying Alter is a decent character without the contrast from her Fate self. Mkay. HF Saber is dangerous, threatening, demands more presence and attention, her character becomes more interesting seeing what aspects of her personality were corrupted and what weren't and her way of showing affection is amplified multiple times in weight and depth now that she's on the enemy side. F/GO must've gotten into your mind, cos we barely saw Alter in HF. Let's also not forget the insanely badass design of herself and Excalibur Morgan. Tbh, Lily's is better. While Fate isn't the ideal route, Arty's character is shown far more and she got to kill both Herk and Gil. >.> In UBW, she's either waifu-bait, raped, or just not there. In HF, she's just a rampaging mid-boss without the personality from Fate. Yes, I took the cookie. Fite me. |
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OneTrueBaita said: This is the one tru saber . OT : GAH !! OP !!!! Please remove that whore from your avatar .I can't click on this page without seeing her . |
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mira-nyan said: >Implying Alter wasn't absent most of the route mira-nyan said: F/GO must've gotten into your mind, cos we barely saw Alter in HF. She was definitely absent during the vast majority of HF, but she was far from being passive. UBW Saber felt more like a narrative tool that Nasu needed to keep around for the final act IMO. Even her small bit of character progression was written, understandably, to be the least consequential in the entire route. It doesn't actually affect anything nor get in the way of anything either. In UBW, had Caster been able to use Saber against Shirou, it would've been a turning point, but that would've been counterproductive to UBW's themes, so she was sidelined by Nasu once again. HF Saber, due to the corruption and changing sides, suddenly jumps to the limelight and becomes way more important to the plot. Her character changes now affect the story and how we perceive it. Being an obstacle rather than a powerful tool in Shirou's tool shed as she was in UBW greatly helped the theme of HF and shaped Shirou's decisions in ways she was never able to do in UBW. It's not about screen time, it's about how that screen time was used. mira-nyan said: >Implying Alter is a decent character without the contrast from her Fate self. Never actually said that. HF Saber shines because we have all the information and those garnered emotions from Fate indeed... and that actually helps HF Saber's case more. That contrast is what made her more interesting than her other counterparts IMO. It's like how HF is perceived as a whole with and without Fate and UBW in mind. No doubt it loses TONS of it's weight and drama without them to offer the starking contrast. HF Saber, like HF itself, is the culmination of every thing the other routes worked towards for us to know and feel certain things about her. The change in direction is more refreshing and powerful now that you know what you know. mira-nyan said: Tbh, Lily's is better. They're both great and set out to look what they're supposed to convey pretty well. Me preferring Alter is just the "edgy" part of me jumping in excitement. :p mira-nyan said: In HF, she's just a rampaging mid-boss without the personality from Fate. I disagree, because, in addition to the reasons above, Alter DOES express personality and emotions, albeit in her own way. She was more stoic than usual, and that actually added more to the moments when she showed these emotions. It wasn't far removed from Fate's "strong king showing weakness", but done with more elegance and subtlety. ...Well, that felt weird. I can't believe i'm seeing the day where i argue for Saber. Someone, hurry, post a Rin Zettai Ryokai art or something. OneTrueBaita said: How dare you!? The king is outraged by your overbearing disrespect. |
OneTrueBaita said: This is obviously the best version. On the poll, I voted HF because Saber Alter is kewl. But like Rin, I love all the versions (not counting the clones). |
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laidellent said: Mordred or Prototype Saber In case it gets buried under HF Saber's non-relevance |
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| Saber is good, she's a great character but her role in UBW/HF is what made me say that, i can't help but dislike fate Saber |
roly-lina said: Saber is good, she's a great character but her role in UBW/HF is what made me say that, i can't help but dislike fate Saber Can I ask why ? |
astroprogs said: -SNIP- Well no, it doesn't help in Alter's case. As difficult as it sounds, split up the development from each route separately and you get the obvious winner. HF Saber is not interesting without Fate Saber - Alter, on her own, is certainly not as good a character as Fate Saber on her own. Don't even get me started on UBW Saber. The poll is about who's the best Saber. Not who's the best Saber, when taking into account previous routes. While I love Arty no matter what form she takes, HF Saber can't even compare to the well-rounded character that is Fate Saber. You could say that Alter was the personification of Saber as a King and you wouldn't be wrong. Whereas, with Saber in Fate, we have her likes + dislikes; her struggles; her actual wish; she beat both Herk and Gil, which is pretty BA, considering nerf; Rider vs Saber was better, e.t.c e.t.c Tbh, I can't take the 'Alter is awesome(in terms of power, cos let's just ignore character), so I vote for her' comments seriously, lol. |
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mira-nyan said: Well no, it doesn't help in Alter's case. As difficult as it sounds, split up the development from each route separately and you get the obvious winner. HF Saber is not interesting without Fate Saber - Alter, on her own, is certainly not as good a character as Fate Saber on her own. Don't even get me started on UBW Saber. The poll is about who's the best Saber. Not who's the best Saber, when taking into account previous routes. While I love Arty no matter what form she takes, HF Saber can't even compare to the well-rounded character that is Fate Saber. You could say that Alter was the personification of Saber as a King and you wouldn't be wrong. Whereas, with Saber in Fate, we have her likes + dislikes; her struggles; her actual wish; she beat both Herk and Gil, which is pretty BA, considering nerf; Rider vs Saber was better, e.t.c e.t.c Tbh, I can't take the 'Alter is awesome(in terms of power, cos let's just ignore character), so I vote for her' comments seriously, lol. The problem with that point is that you can't separate Fate from HF Saber because it contains her original characterization and backstory. HF isn't a standalone, so Alter can't be treated as such. The only things you can compare fairly between the different versions are the unique route-specific traits (romance in Fate and corruption in HF) and where the character goes from there; their character development. Fate Saber's development is essentially that her mindset gets affected by Shirou and his actions due to her feelings for him. This wasn't a development i was keen on, mostly due to the execution rather than the concept, so i had lukewarm feelings for her midway through Fate even with her final scene being this amazingly done. HF Saber's development is little to non-existent thanks to her corruption. The interesting part here, however, is how much she changed (or didn't change), how she views her ideals and how she acts on them in that form. Her likes and dislikes weren't that interesting to me and her goal and wish reflect her change in a way that makes sense. To me, her actions under corruption is much more interesting than her development using the romance angle, even if she undergoes no development in that route. Well, saying Alter is a better character because "power levels and bla bla" is pretty silly and a bit shallow, so yeah, we agree there. |
| F/GO really made me fond of Alter after seeing what she's truly like . Like before my opinion was just "pretty decent and 10/10 design",but now I can genuinely say I like her. Fate's Saber is the best though.Like all of her development and backstory is there and she's actually relevant,can't really see how it's worth arguing about. astroprogs said: The interesting part here, however, is how much she changed (or didn't change), how she views her ideals and how she acts on them in that form. This was never addressed in HF proper due to her severely limited screentime,so I don't know why you're bringing it up. |
DamnThatsTheSpotDec 4, 2015 10:12 AM
DamnThatsTheSpot said: This was never addressed in HF proper due to her severely limited screentime,so I don't know why you're bringing it up. Her ideals regarding her rule weren't addressed in HF, that's true. She retains a huge portion of her sanity, though, which isn't much to go off of, i admit, but it's interesting food for the thought nonetheless. |
| It was interesting to ponder about,since you could never clearly tell what she was thinking, yes(except that one time in SLH i guess),but that's it. Like we never even found out what happens to her after the route,she's just that underutilized.(i wonder if the movies will fix this) it makes her appearances more memorable tho,i guess |
DamnThatsTheSpot said: It was interesting to ponder about,since you could never clearly tell what she was thinking, yes(except that one time in SLH i guess),but that's it. Like we never even found out what happens to her after the route,she's just that underutilized.(i wonder if the movies will fix this) it makes her appearances more memorable tho,i guess Very true. I liked that about her, she was stoic and straight to the point, but somehow you could still see something Saber-like buried in there beneath the cold exterior. Yeah, we don't even know if she'll retain her memories of the times she was corrupted. If she did, i think Shirou's resolve and dedication to save Sakura and abandoning his ideal for what's essentially a selfish desire may have made a crack in her beliefs, leading her to a conclusion similar to that of Fate or UBW. If she didn't, however, then it's back to the ending of F/Z for her, which is kinda depressing and probably not what Nasu had in mind seeing how he ended HF's good end. |
astroprogs said: DamnThatsTheSpot said: It was interesting to ponder about,since you could never clearly tell what she was thinking, yes(except that one time in SLH i guess),but that's it. Like we never even found out what happens to her after the route,she's just that underutilized.(i wonder if the movies will fix this) it makes her appearances more memorable tho,i guess Very true. I liked that about her, she was stoic and straight to the point, but somehow you could still see something Saber-like buried in there beneath the cold exterior. Yeah, we don't even know if she'll retain her memories of the times she was corrupted. If she did, i think Shirou's resolve and dedication to save Sakura and abandon his ideals for what's essentially a selfish desire may have made a crack in her beliefs, leading her to a conclusion similar to that of Fate or UBW. If she didn't, however, then it's back to the ending of F/Z for her, which is kinda depressing and probably not what Nasu had in mind seeing how he ended HF's good end. ...what if she stays corrupted? Since she's not like the other HS and actually has a corporal body, getting tainted might actually be permanent D: |
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astroprogs said: Very true. I liked that about her, she was stoic and straight to the point, but somehow you could still see something Saber-like buried in there beneath the cold exterior. i mean..Saber is also stoic and straight to the point with a cold exterior so.. Yeah, we don't even know if she'll retain her memories of the times she was corrupted. If she did, i think Shirou's resolve and dedication to save Sakura and abandoning his ideal for what's essentially a selfish desire may have made a crack in her beliefs, leading her to a conclusion similar to that of Fate or UBW. If she didn't, however, then it's back to the ending of F/Z for her, which is kinda depressing and probably not what Nasu had in mind seeing how he ended HF's good end. She's a summonable Servant in GO,so she probably became a HS after that,but that's a separate thing. And we already know that if by some miracle Shirou,Sakura and Rin end up being fine in HF,then she'd be satisfied.But at the same time she wouldn't lose any sleep if they all died horribly either,so lol Her ideals are the same as Saber's,despite being corrupted.What's different is her policy.Which is again something we didn't find out in HF. |
OneTrueBaita said: ...what if she stays corrupted? Since she's not like the other HS and actually has a corporal body, getting tainted might actually be permanent D: That's a very good point. She sunk into the mud the last time we saw her. Let's see if such a scenario can work: I guess Alaya wouldn't care and Saber will have her original desire to save Britain back. She'll be summoned in alternative timelines wars' until she eventually wins one and become the king again. DamnThatsTheSpot said: i mean..Saber is also stoic and straight to the point with a cold exterior so.. Well, Saber had a liiittle bit less murderous exterior and blood lust, so there's that as well lol. |
astroprogsDec 4, 2015 11:40 AM
astroprogs said: Well, Saber had a liiittle bit less murderous exterior and blood lust, so there's that as well lol. You say this,but Alter never attacked anyone without being ordered to. Saber did on the other hand. I agree she doesn't looks as mean tho. |
DamnThatsTheSpot said: astroprogs said: Well, Saber had a liiittle bit less murderous exterior and blood lust, so there's that as well lol. You say this,but Alter never attacked anyone without being ordered to. Saber did on the other hand. I agree she doesn't looks as mean tho. Alter definitely has less qualms about completely slaughtering an opponent if that's what she herself thought it was necessary to. She's not someone you can reason with, only order with an absolute magic binding. Saber, on the other hand, did it in secret and had the mental capacity to listen and change. Alter is way less apologetic about it. |
| The thing is Saber would have hesitated in that fight against Rider and Shirou in HF.Alter was a lot indifferent about it. |
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laidellent said: The thing is Saber would have hesitated in that fight against Rider and Shirou in HF.Alter was a lot indifferent about it. Yup. Now compare that to Saber's reaction to Caster's order in UBW |
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