User talk:Marchjuly/Archives/2025/February

Image copyright issue

Hi - Keon and I are trying to edit this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keon_Alexander - and just want to change his pic but you sent us an email saying we needed to have a website showing it was free to use etc. This is our/his profile pic and it shouldn't be so difficult to update. There is no reason why we would host this pic online for no reason - we uploaded it to other sites like his IMDB profile but we of course cant send email from this. I initially tried to just change the image from the pages edit mode but that uploader is broken (Firefoxm safari and chrome) - just hangs when you hit save and only reloading helps. So I had to go to the general Wikipedia upload media link and perhaps that is what is causing all this complication? Happywombat (talk) 02:33, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi Happywombat. A couple of things here. First, if Keon Alexander himself, you or anyone else connected to him in a personal or professional way is trying to edit or create content about him on Wikipedia, then you're going to be considered to have a conflict of interest and should carefully read through Wikipedia:Conflict of interest to familiarize to some Wikipedia policies and guideline that apply to your situation. If you're being compensated in some way to edit Wikipedia on his behalf or are in his employ, you should also take a close look at Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Wikipedia policy doesn't expressly forbid conflict-of-interest editing, but it is highly discouraged because it can often lead to more serious problems. Wikipedia policy does, however, prohibit what is referred to as "undisclosed paid editing" ("undisclosed compensated editing") and a failure to comply with relevant policy and properly declare any such arrangement can lead to an account being blocked by a Wikipedia administrator. Some other pages you might want to take a look are Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Dealing with articles about yourself and Wikipedia:Ownership of content. Neither Alexander nor anyone associated with him has any final editorial control over what's written about him on Wikipedia, and all content about needs to be in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policy and guidelines regardless of whether its what he wants. Wikipedia, however, has processes in place if he has concerns about what written about him and these are explained in the "Dealing with articles about yourself" link I mentioned above.

As for images, Wikipedia requires that the images it hosts be in accordance with Wikipedia:Image use policy. The main concern here is regarding whether images meet Wikipedia:Copyrights. Because of the way Wikipedia is licensed for re-use, it only can host content licensed in a certain way (see c:Commons:Licensing for more details about images), except in certain cases, and it needs some way of verifying copyright holder consent. With respect to photos, the copyright of a photo is, in principle, the person who takes the photo (not the subject of the photo or someone possessing a physical/digital copy of the photo), and it's this person's consent that Wikipedia needs to verify. So, you're going to need the copyright holder of File:Keon Alexander profile picture.jpg to either email their consent to Wikimedia VRT or provide some other way for Wikipedia to verify they are agreeing to release their photo under a license that Wikipedia accepts. If this can't be done, Wikipedia can't host the photo. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:02, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Question from Anjumsabah (19:03, 7 February 2025)

i hv no question as of now...thnku --Anjumsabah (talk) 19:03, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Question from Wrzn (10:23, 9 February 2025)

Hey there, I saw an article vandalised in my native language. The filter bot doesn't let me revert it. Can you look into it? Thanks.

This is the last correct revision: https://hi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%89%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%87%E0%A4%A8&oldid=5975664 --Wrzn (talk) 10:23, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

@Wrzn: Each of the various language Wikipedias are seperate projects with their own respective policies and guidelines as well as their own communties of users. I don't understand Hindi and don't make any edits on Hindi Wikipedia; so, I'm not a good person to ask about this. The best place to ask for assistance about this probably going to be Hindi Wikipedia's Help Desk at hi: विकिपीडिया:चौपाल or at Hindi Wikipedia's administrator noticeboard at hi:विकिपीडिया:प्रबन्धक सूचनापट. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:08, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Re: File:1940 Dole ad Pineapple Bud O'Keeffe 1939.jpg

Thank you for starting the discussion, but I've tried starting similar discussions in the past with little response. I've found that the only way to get action is to upload the file in question to Commons and then nominate it for deletion. I know that sounds unusual, but it tends to get a response. Viriditas (talk) 22:35, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi Viriditas If you want to do that, you may; on the other hand, you can also ask about the file at c:COM:VPC to see what others might think about it. Since the file is uploaded locally to English Wikipedia, though, you will need to tweak the link to the file's page so that it works on Commons; formatting the link as en:File:1940 Dole ad Pineapple Bud O'Keeffe 1939.jpg should do the trick. FWIW, I was just asking at MCQ for some informal feedback on this file, but you can start a discussion about it at WP:FFD if you want something more definitive. "FFD" used to be like any other WP:XFD page in that it was many a place to discuss whether a file should be deleted; however, it was changed in to a venue for more general discussions a few years ago, and it's now OK to use for things like this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:49, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Question from JackHatfield80 (06:24, 11 February 2025)

Can you help me create my author page and bio and link it to my families history page? --JackHatfield80 (talk) 06:24, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Hey @JackHatfield80: let's take this to your talk page, I'll give you a few pointers to help you get started. See you there shortly! -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:01, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Hi Marchjuly, Whenever I come across your replies to newbie questions, I'm impressed by the quality of your answers – polite, helpful, thorough, correct... I invariably find myself thinking, "I wish I'd come up with that!" Just wanted to say thanks for all your hard work, and well done! :) Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:28, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words DoubleGrazing. Perhaps you could take a crack at helping this user below. Some of their recent edits to Hatfield–McCoy feud seem to idicate they might not understand some things about Wikipedia related to WP:NOT, WP:COI, WP:VNT, etc. I'm almost certain they mean well and have just started out on the proverbial wrong foot, but it's still the wrong foot regardless of how good their intentions were. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:08, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Sure thing. It won't be as good advice as coming from you, but I'll give it a bash. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:00, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

​I'm sure whatever you post will be fine. Many times I post much more than is necessary since brevity isn't one of my strong points. In this case, though, advice from an admin might be better since the edits were flagged as a copyvio and might need some revdeleting (though it's probably the user's own website the content comes from). -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:06, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Your post was much superior than what I could've done. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:46, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Question from Annamfall (18:35, 11 February 2025)

How do I cancel. --Annamfall (talk) 18:35, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi Annamfall. I don't really understand your question. What would you like to cancel? Would you like to cancel your user account? Would you like to cancel a Wikipedia page or a Wikipedia edit? The only edit you've made with your account so far has been the post you made here on my userpage; so, it's hard to figure out what you want to cancel. If you can clarify your question a bit, either I or someone else might be able to help you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:11, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

File:4HTexas.png PROD

Thanks for the message. My mistake, of course. Guess it's time for me to learn to read the page history. Will move the image to Commons in a few days if no one objects or beats me to it. Ajpolino (talk) 15:58, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

@Ajpolino: Not big deal. Usually, {{Oldffdfull}} is added to the talk page of files discussed at FFD that end up being kept, but that didn't happen in this case. FWIW, the file's licensing was incorrect, but that has now be fixed by another user. This file can probably be tagged for a move to Commons since the copyright status of the four-leaf clover element discussed at FFD seems to have been resolved on Commons. If someone wants to keep a local file on English Wikipedia just in case, they can tag it with {{Keep local}}. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:54, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for helping me in understanding the Wikipedia editing process and policies!

Alyssaditalian (talk) 22:55, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Foreign Service officers

Obviously, there are bigger fish to fry on the USAID page now than the "FSo" thing, however shocking it seemed at the moment, so let it pass. Whatever.

I see that among the instances supporting that form were its use in The New York Times. Well, if there's one silver lining to the ongoing Musk-Trump-Rubio thing, it's the thought that a day may come when I will never have to see their use of "U.S.A.I.D." in print again. Gad! Jsryanjr (talk) 23:01, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you posted the above here. If you've got concerns about the article United States Agency for International Development, you should discuss them at Talk:United States Agency for International Development. If you've got concerns about Foreign Service officer, you should discuss them at Talk:Foreign Service officer. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:07, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

About the image uploads

Hello, I unerstand that my images were unsourced - I was just using them for the sandbox page temporarily. I assumed they'd auto delete after a couple days based on the notifications I was getting but I don't know if that's actually the case. How can I remove them manually? I don't want to keep them up if they violate Wikipedia's policy. Let me know KebBadErikSteveJobs (talk) 22:25, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi KebBadErikSteveJobs. You can request that the files be speedily deleted per WP:G7; just go to each file's page, click "edit" and add the syntax {{db-author}} to the top of the editing window. Once you've done that, add an edit summary, click "Show preview" to check your work and finally click "Publish changes" if everything seems OK. An administrator will delete the file shortly thereafter.

Finally, if you're looking for images to use for testing things in your sandbox, Wikimedia Commons hosts lots of images that should be OK from a licensing standpoint and that will work in your sandbox. Be careful, though, when using images of living people, particulary if you're doing so in a way that might be a problem per WP:BLPIMAGE, since WP:BLP applies to all Wikipedia pages, including user sandboxes. A good generic image like the placeholder images in c:Category:Persons placeholders in English tend to work fine for testing purposes in one's user sandbox. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:41, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Ok, I've tagged all my images with that syntax. Thank you for the help, I won't upload unsourced images in the future. Have a nice day KebBadErikSteveJobs (talk) 22:53, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Italian American Museum of Los Angeles

Hey, I noticed you've been working on cleaning up the article (good for you!). You may have noticed that I've been doing a little work on it as well. Looks like our COI editor has calmed down, so I figured it'd probably be safe for me to lose my ability to act in an administrative capacity vis-a-vis the editor. I have a question, though, about the Events section. Without additional context as to what the event is about, I don't think it's noteworthy. If the event had a Wikipedia article, I'd feel differently, but just because something is sourced doesn't mean it should be included. What do you think? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

@Bbb23: To be completely honest, I was just doing what I did kind of because I lacked anything else better to do at the moment and not because of any particular interest in the subject matter. I figured I see what I could source (even if the sources weren't the greatest) so that others could then look things over a figure out whether what to do next. When I started working on that particular section, I tried to use what was already there and see what might work. To me personally, though, most of those events didn't really seem to be much to write about (certainly not major enough to generate anything other that coverage in niche press or local type sources), but I could understand how someone interested in that particular genre (museums in general or ethnicity museums in particular) might feel differently. Perhaps WP:WikiProject Museums might be a good place to ask for input, but if others feel the content is not worth mentioning at all or perhaps only worth being treated sort of as a "discography" for a museum, I wouldn't have any problems with that. FWIW, I was probably going to step back from the article anyway today so that others could have go at it. The COI editor seems to have figured out how to use the talk page to ask for changes; so, I was thinking it would be better to le them go through that for awhile. This is probably a longer and more rambling response than you were looking for: so, my apologies for that. Brevity isn't a strong suit of mine anyway, but especially not so early in the morning. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:57, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Sorry for the belated response. I've been a bit distracted lately, mostly IRL. I don't mind long responses as long as they're readable, and yours is. I've kind of lost interest in the article and the COI editor.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:53, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

​ As long as the COI editor continues to follow WP:COIADVICE, things will most likely be OK; if, on the other hand, they try to color too much outside the lines, some adminstrator will likely take their crayons away. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:55, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

I agree it's odd - along with the username - but it's not really up my alley.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:54, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Question from Drspsingh25 (05:34, 22 February 2025)

hello what to write in about me so that not deleted --Drspsingh25 (talk) 05:34, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi Drspsingh25. There's some information posted on your user talk page that contains blue links to Wikipedia information pages you might find helpful. Did you at look at any of those pages? It looks like you're trying to create a userpage, but you're not doing so in accordance with Wikipedia's user page guidelnes. Please take a look at Wikipedia:User pages#What may I have in my user pages? because it explains the type of content considered OK for one's user page. Please also take a look at Wikipedia:User pages#What may I not have in my user pages? because it explains the type of kind of content not considered OK for one's user page. A user page isn't like a free personal website where we can post whatever we want; rather, it's something Wikipedia lets us borrow and use for free, but only as long as we do so in accordance with Wikipedia's user page guidelines. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:12, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Images - copyright

I am the creator and copyright holder of this media which are photographs from a personal album owned by me and the copyright retained by me. You need to remove this tag immediately. It is completely incorrect to assert that these images were taken from a publication or online. These are private images created and belonging to me because the subject matter in question is related. Again, the points outlined on being taken from a publication or online (when I am the holder of the original images and these can only be used online with my permission) are baseless. Wikiaddict8962 (talk) 08:50, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

Physical possession of a photo isn't the same as owning the copyright of the photo; if, however, you did take these photos yourself, then all you need to do is to send a WP:CONSENT email to Wikimedia VRT for verification purposes. There's no information about the provenances of these photos, and they certainly couldn't have been taken on the dates you listed in their file descriptions; so, the more information you can provide about them, the easier it will be to sort them out. FWIW, they are of such poor quality that they do look like scans of an old newspaper or some other type of print publication. Since you say that's not the case, all you need to do is to verify that you're the copyright holder of the photos with Wikimedia VRT. -- Marchjuly (talk)

Question from 101FactChecker (16:57, 24 February 2025)

Hey I have edited pages and published them and it still says i have 0 edits why is this --101FactChecker (talk) 16:57, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

If you look at Special:Contributions/101FactChecker, you'll be able to see a record of all the edits you've made with your account. The edit history for your account can be found here; it shows you've made two edits since you're account was created on February 10, 2025. Is it possible that you were editing using another account or as an unregistered IP account before that day? If so, those edits will not show up in the editing history of this particular account. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:53, 26 February 2025 (UTC)